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Green/Camoflaged A-6 Intruder
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2006, 08:13:15 pm »
Hi folks,

I guess I should look at some of the posted links more often.  Look what I found on the beuliland.com site:



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« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2006, 03:35:07 am »




Can't find any more camo'd intruders, but here's a profile of that green phantom and a SEA Vigilante
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Re: A-6 Intruder and EA-6 Prowler
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2008, 01:19:38 pm »
Not so much a whiff (its actually real world!), but still a different looking  Prowler:



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Re: A-6 Intruder and EA-6 Prowler
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2008, 02:36:49 pm »
Take the body of an EA-6 and blank out the rear seat and paint it Gunship Grey and add a pair of F-404s. You could have the start of an alternate to the F-15E .

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Re: A-6 Intruder and EA-6 Prowler
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2008, 12:31:24 am »
I recently heard that there is a Grumman Model 128U that is the ASW version of the A-6.

Hum...... folks, what is by your estimations the smallest carrier that could operate A-6?

(Midway class?  Essex class?  CATOBAR Ark Royal?  Clemenceau class?  Or...... even Colossus class?)

This question stems from the Wikipedia claim that the modernised Midway class is too small for S-3...... would those not wanting to be stuck with refurbished S-2 be able to appreciate the Grumman 128U?

(Of course, for AEW capability one still has to look at S-2 variations or Sea King with Searchwater......)
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Re: A-6 Intruder and EA-6 Prowler
« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2010, 03:22:39 pm »
Something you do not see very often in the news or as a model.  Wally Civitico  has shared some images of his 1/48th scale KA-6D Intruder tanker on ARC that he has loaded up with fuel tanks and a scratch built hose and drogue unit mounted in the fuselage.
 
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Re: A-6 Intruder and EA-6 Prowler
« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2010, 06:08:56 pm »
Boy that is great looking  :thumbsup:
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Re: A-6 Intruder and EA-6 Prowler
« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2010, 06:30:39 pm »
For your Ferret / Wild Weasel Intruder - you should start with the two-seater EA-6B Intruder arrangement - the prelude to the EA-6B Prowler!
For this will already have the EW/ECM and RWR built into it!

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Re: A-6 Intruder and EA-6 Prowler
« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2010, 08:12:41 pm »
Hard one to whiff, the A-6: the airframe's an odd shape to change and not really suitable for roles other than those it really did. :huh:

How about export customers? Given the small carriers available in the rest of the world, they'd probably be out as platforms, so we've talking about land-based strike, probably with a maritime bias:

Marineflieger/Italian with 4 x Kormorans

Japanese "anti-landing-craft" with 4 x ASM-1s

Portuguese/Spanish/Greek/Australian with 4 x Harpoons

RAF with Martels/Sea Eagles instead of the Buccaneer (hate the idea, but it's valid)

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Re: A-6 Intruder and EA-6 Prowler
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2010, 11:03:51 pm »
Single-seater.

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Re: A-6 Intruder and EA-6 Prowler
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2010, 12:55:32 am »
Single-seater.



Yes I thought of that, and a tandem two-seater based on the Prowler, but they'd be awfully tricky to model, bearing it mind that cutting a tapered slice out of the A-6 fuselage would shorted the already stubby nose, angle the jet pipes outwards and change the wing sweep. One possibility might be to start with a Prowler, cut the slice, accept the shortened nose and them make that a single seater.... Another approach might be to substitute an entirely different centre and front fuselage, with the A-6 wings, engines and tail grafted onto it.

McGreig's got an interesting A-6 project underway, with VG wings and a pointy nose, although it preserves the side-by-side layout:

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,19029.0.html
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Re: A-6 Intruder and EA-6 Prowler
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2010, 12:46:11 pm »

Yes I thought of that, and a tandem two-seater based on the Prowler, but they'd be awfully tricky to model, bearing it mind that cutting a tapered slice out of the A-6 fuselage would shorted the already stubby nose, angle the jet pipes outwards and change the wing sweep. One possibility might be to start with a Prowler, cut the slice, accept the shortened nose and them make that a single seater.... Another approach might be to substitute an entirely different centre and front fuselage, with the A-6 wings, engines and tail grafted onto it.


What tapered slice? The Design 128G-12 proposal in the drawing had the same fuselage width and wingspan as the A-6
and was slightly longer at 56' 6" compared to 54' 9" for the A-6. The proposal also incorporated a folding horizontal tail.
Attached is a quick and nasty overlay (of course the drawings don't line up exactly even though both are from the Putnam volume  :banghead: )
From the drawings it appears to me that it would be more a matter of building up and extending rather than removing.

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Re: A-6 Intruder and EA-6 Prowler
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2010, 07:50:23 pm »
Ah I see - I was assumed that any single-seater would be narrower. That overlay is very interesting: the single seat canopy is actually in front of the side-by-side one, which means you could fit a tandem cockpit if you wanted to.

What was the intended mission of the 128G-12 proposal?
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Re: A-6 Intruder and EA-6 Prowler
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2010, 07:56:59 pm »
What was the intended mission of the 128G-12 proposal?

It competed against the A-7 Corsair, so I'd assume its mission to cover the same range......
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Re: A-6 Intruder and EA-6 Prowler
« Reply #44 on: March 13, 2010, 03:00:07 pm »
Hawker developed the Intruder with Grumman and I hear the Intruder IV was quite the machine for the British.
 


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