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IAI T-270 Drowr (Super Magister)
« on: November 30, 2008, 01:40:13 pm »
Okay, I really shouldn't be starting another one whilst I've got the Avro Atom (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,21511.0.html) on the go, but this project ties in with my Trainers with Teeth entries as part of the backstory, so it's really does need doing now.

Basically, it's a swept-wing Magister as per a discussion here: http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,21396.0.html

Magister body, G-91 wings and F-86D tailplanes, all from Airfix. Canopy from a 1/100th scale F-14 by some anonymous Chinese outfit.



Wheels will be UP because the G-91 wings are single thickness and have bays for legs but no wheels. Colour scheme will be Israeli display team, i.e. white with dayglow orange nose, wingtips and fin stripes.



First hurdle will be dealing with the Magister's thick, short wing root fairings. I can't just cut them off because they're hollow and that would lose me the wing slots, so I'll have to carefully trim the upper and lowe edges and then make good with filler.

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Re: Super Magister
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2008, 01:44:44 pm »
Looking good. Are you going to change the engines/exhausts to something newer and more powerful?

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Re: Super Magister
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2008, 01:53:40 pm »
Looking good. Are you going to change the engines/exhausts to something newer and more powerful?

Ed

Yes and no - the engines are non-afterburning J-85s for LOTS more thrust. However, if you look at the T-37 to A-37 evolution you can see that J-85-17As slot straight in place of J-69s, which are licence-built Marbores, so there's no actual need to change the external lines of the model.
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Re: Super Magister
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2008, 02:09:31 pm »
Lookin' sweet, and waaaay better than the original bird!
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Re: Super Magister
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2008, 02:57:43 pm »
Nice start!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Re: Super Magister
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2008, 04:37:49 pm »
Damn, that looks sleek! Very nice!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Super Magister
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2008, 09:17:27 pm »
This has got a great shape to it! I'm diggin' it quite a bit  :thumbsup:
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Re: Super Magister
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2008, 06:03:30 am »
Super Maggie!


Please note that I do NOT intend to build this model: I really like the credibility of the background story for my Magister project, and a swept wing conversion would be too radical. If someone else wants to do it though, feel free: I'd love to see the finished result.


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Re: Super Magister
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2008, 07:13:40 am »
Super Maggie!


Please note that I do NOT intend to build this model: I really like the credibility of the background story for my Magister project, and a swept wing conversion would be too radical. If someone else wants to do it though, feel free: I'd love to see the finished result.


Eat those words!!! ;D ;D ;D

Yeah, I know..... :rolleyes:

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Re: Super Magister
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2008, 07:17:52 am »
I've got to admit, when I first saw that post my thought was; 'Yeah, right, I bet he'll build it'!!!
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Re: Super Magister
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2008, 08:22:18 am »
Sweeeet! Cute little model

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Re: Super Magister
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2008, 10:38:47 am »
You'll have missed this thread while you've been away Archie, I'm sure it'll benefit from your input!
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,21396.0.html
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Re: Super Magister
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2008, 11:07:21 pm »
Very cool looking aeroplane. Of course everyone knows v tails make a plane 1000 % cooler ;D
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Re: Super Magister
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2008, 05:09:37 pm »
Slight progress: slimmer wing root on one side (Mouth, say hello to Heart, Heart, this is Mouth.....), and a canopy that sort of fits. It's slightly further forwards too, since this makes it match up to the seats better. The GIB is still going to keep thinking he's in the back of a Porsche 911 though....




Ahh, the joys of "constant scale". The red guy is the pilot of an Airfix Hawk, and the silver guy is his 12 year old nephew who flies Magisters........ :rolleyes:





« Last Edit: December 02, 2008, 05:11:40 pm by Weaver »
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Re: Super Magister
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2008, 05:28:15 pm »
wow, its Douglas Badder in 1/72nd scale.and his out of scale Chinese made counter part!!!!
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