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Re: Italian WWII Fighters
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2009, 03:43:30 am »
I've always thought the "British" Re 2000's would have been posted to the Middle and Far East. So in India they would have looked very much like the Mohawks that were actually used. Very much early war temperate scheme including the red/white/blue roundels. Possibly would of been out of service before the SEAC scheme came in. Could see them in Singapore instead of the Buffalo's ?

Geoff P has built a DAF Re 2000 in 1/48. Nice model
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Re: Italian WWII Fighters
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2009, 05:24:53 am »


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Re: Italian WWII Fighters
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2009, 03:44:56 pm »
What about a British Re.2000 re-engined with a Bristol engine, a Taurus or a Hercules.
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Re: Italian WWII Fighters
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2009, 05:06:15 am »
Hi Arc

Very much like that except it would have had the early type roundels with wider white and yellow rings as per the attached Spitfire profile. (Couldn't find a colour pic of a RAF Mohawk)

Will probably get the Italeri kit out of the stash when I get home and do an Indian based RAF Re  ;D

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Re: Italian WWII Fighters
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2009, 07:23:51 am »
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Re: Italian WWII Fighters
« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2009, 08:36:52 am »
Geoff P has built a DAF Re 2000 in 1/48. Nice model

Thank you. It's in the background of this pic, I cannot find a proper one of it. Unfortunatly you cannot see the sharkmouth on the nose as it's 112 Sqd.

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Re: Italian WWII Fighters
« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2009, 12:48:48 pm »
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Re: Italian WWII Fighters
« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2009, 06:37:35 pm »
Going back to the earlier discussion about three-engined fighters and the difficulties of arming them, how about a twin boom design, like the SM.91, with a third engine on the back of the central pods with a pusher propellor? You then have the nose of the pod clear for an efficient armament layout and the favourable one-engine-per-drag-body ratio of a conventional fighter, with the added bonus of reduced prop-wash drag from the pusher engine (pushers are inherently more efficient than tractors).
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Re: Italian WWII Fighters
« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2009, 03:10:37 am »
On the subject of twin-engine Italian fighters, there were also two IMAM designs:

Ro.57: http://www.comandosupremo.com/Ro57.html



Is that sexy or what? The nearest thing to a productionised Grumman Skyrocket I can think of.... :wub:

There's a kit of it too: http://www.modelingmadness.com/scotts/axis/previews/splhobby/sh72082preview.htm


Ro.58: http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Files/2-Airplanes/Axis/2-Italy/03-Attack-Aircrafts/IMAM-RO.58/IMAM-RO.58.htm

This was an enlarged Ro.57 with Db.601 engines and two crew. On flight test, it allegedly performed better than an Me-410, but it was too late to be put into production before the end of the war in Italy.
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Re: Italian WWII Fighters
« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2009, 03:13:42 am »
I've always liked the Ro 57 and I've the Special Hobby kit in the stash and an old resin oneI got cheap somewhere - this thread is increasing my build list expotentialy  :banghead:
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Re: Italian WWII Fighters
« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2009, 03:50:43 am »
Breda 88 is even better  ;D
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Re: Italian WWII Fighters
« Reply #41 on: July 27, 2009, 08:16:49 am »
Breda 88 is even better  ;D

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Re: Italian WWII Fighters
« Reply #42 on: July 27, 2009, 10:53:52 am »
Imagine the Ro.57 with 801's under the cowlings... I Love the canopy design, it just looks so raked back and sleek... the Ro.58's a little meh, she's like a knock off of the 110 really.
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Re: Italian WWII Fighters
« Reply #43 on: July 27, 2009, 11:26:12 am »
The SAI 207/403 "Dardo" fighters and Caproni-Vizzola F.6 has always interested me not sure if there are any kits of these birds

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Re: Italian WWII Fighters
« Reply #44 on: July 27, 2009, 11:35:42 am »
Imagine the Ro.57 with 801's under the cowlings... I Love the canopy design, it just looks so raked back and sleek... the Ro.58's a little meh, she's like a knock off of the 110 really.

It'd look great with a pair of jets: BMW 003s before the end of the war, or Derwents just after it, in either case carried well forward of the wing to maintain the same CofG. The undercarriage would need a re-think though.
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