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Offline nev

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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2004, 05:36:32 am »
Evan - maybe an engineer is like a ref in football - over here we say the refs had a good game if you don't notice him.......

Tophe - great find on the californian fire bomber!  :wub:  
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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2004, 06:27:12 am »
Yeah, all those fire-bombers in western USA and Canada rock !

There's even a tour from Europe that goes around to a bunch of the bases......Martin Mars, Cansos, DC-6, Electras, A-26, CL-215/415, Neptunes, Hercs, Broncos, Trackers.........an enthusiasts dream !

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« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2004, 08:22:14 pm »
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I thought this was a dream... ;)  What if twin-boomers that I love were fighting forest-fires that I hate ?  :D But looking closer, this seems a true story, thanks to the California Department of fire... :wub:
*G* I believe that's the California Department of Forestry.  As I remember, the main commercial airtanker operator is located about 100 miles north-northwest of Sacramento (interviewed there once upon a time).  
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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2004, 08:23:41 pm »
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Yeah, all those fire-bombers in western USA and Canada rock !

There's even a tour from Europe that goes around to a bunch of the bases......Martin Mars, Cansos, DC-6, Electras, A-26, CL-215/415, Neptunes, Hercs, Broncos, Trackers.........an enthusiasts dream !

 :wub:  :wub:  :wub:
As I remember, they also use Orions - what few they can get out of the US Navy.  
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« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2004, 09:25:24 pm »
Thanks for the Forest correction instead of Fire. I had just tried to guess, from a German source about a CFD Bronco, but that did not matched the CDF marking. Now all is explained, thanks, and Ollie will tell us the name of the Quebec department using his P-38, I hope...
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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2004, 08:59:43 am »
Oh, I painted the P-38 like a bird out West.  We don't need P-38s here, we have CL-415s, eh!  Plus with all the lakes we have, it's an amphib we need.


And no, I will not participate in any way into designing an amphibious jet P-38.


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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2004, 09:09:06 am »
I did not mean Canada needs badly P-38 fire bombers, as I respect plainly CL-215 & 415 as the best tools in the world for that, I was just meaning : "Ollie will tell us : what-if the QDF (?) had considered using this jet-P-38, before refusing as the Canadairs were far better ?". Not insulting our dear flying-boats, summer heroes on both sides of the Atlantic...
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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2004, 09:20:53 am »
You want a background?  Here is one.

This aircraft was developped jointly by Burt Rutan and Aero Union, using left overs P-38 parts in the Davis-Montana bone yard.  A new carbon fiber wing was developped, along with new booms.  J-85s were selected as powerplants.

Aircraft began operations in March 1997 in California and was proposed to various agencies, including SOPFEU in Québec.  When the leaders of the French-Canadian were shown the plane, they laughed so hard that one of them had to be treated because of hyperventilation.

SOPFEU still operates CL-415s.  

SOPFEU = Société de protection des forêts contre le feu.

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« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2004, 10:34:01 am »
Thanks a lot, Ollie !  :)  And glory to the STOPFEU, even without twin-boomer... :)  
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« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2004, 10:51:11 am »
Ahem, c'est SOPFEU Tophe.....