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Re: Gloster Gladiator whiffs
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2008, 02:35:46 pm »
As a back up to their F.5/34 design, Gloster also created 2 monoplane Gladiators:

The first had fixed undercarriage:



Whilst the second had a crude retractable undercarriage and stretched fuselage (but lighter armament):



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Re: Gloster Gladiator whiffs
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2018, 11:20:28 pm »
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I've been looking at what remains after recent builds.
How do we feel about a Gladiator with the Mercury replaced with a Hercules.  Twice the weight but also twice the horsepower.
I feel it may have had some balance issues.  Both in flight and on the ground.  Would have climbed well though.

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Re: Gloster Gladiator whiffs
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2018, 11:39:28 pm »
Don't stop at a Hercules, go the whole hog and plonk a Centaurus on there.  ;D
Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage

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Re: Gloster Gladiator whiffs
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2018, 02:20:02 am »

I've been looking at what remains after recent builds.
How do we feel about a Gladiator with the Mercury replaced with a Hercules.  Twice the weight but also twice the horsepower.
I feel it may have had some balance issues.  Both in flight and on the ground.  Would have climbed well though.

Certainly interesting. It's also got me thinking of a Gladiator with a late Kestrel or an early Merlin ? Maybe a Napier Dagger ?
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Re: Gloster Gladiator whiffs
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2018, 06:21:28 am »
I like the variant with the retractable landing gear - but IMHO it would not work in real life, because the wings would have to be bigger and also the leading edge moved forward.
I have a Gladiator monoplane on my agenda, though - and consider the wings from a Fokker D.XXI (size sould be perfect), with the wheels retracting inwards, pretty conservative. Maybe a different engine, too, and a three-blade propeller with a spinner.

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Re: Gloster Gladiator whiffs
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2018, 02:35:32 pm »
And what if new Gladiator used only a high-mounted gull wing to give the pilot an excellent view?
Like PZL P.11/P.24? With a fixed chassis as in the original.

Or a quick jump to Bristol F.18/37?
« Last Edit: September 29, 2018, 02:42:39 pm by Dingg »

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Re: Gloster Gladiator whiffs
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2018, 06:08:36 pm »
What if the Centaurus had a bigger brother?
The Bristol Cerberus, a 27 cylinder three row radial...

To loft that skywards a Gladiator would need its centre of lift moved forwards so I am envisaging forward swept wings.  Maybe a Triplane...
« Last Edit: September 29, 2018, 06:13:41 pm by zenrat »
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Re: Gloster Gladiator whiffs
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2018, 05:52:23 am »
And what if new Gladiator used only a high-mounted gull wing to give the pilot an excellent view?
Like PZL P.11/P.24? With a fixed chassis as in the original.


Interesting thought.

Could be a link between the Gladiator and Gloster's F5/34 ? Which Magna kit, or did, as I've built it
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Re: Gloster Gladiator whiffs
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2018, 11:48:03 pm »
Why not? Will try this week to do it. Maybe also A6M2 as Gloster F5/34 ( Gloster Gale Mk.II with Taurus??)  and Henschel HS-129 as Gloster F.9/37( Gloster Gunner Mk.I ???) :rolleyes:
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Re: Gloster Gladiator whiffs
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2018, 01:34:27 am »
And what if new Gladiator used only a high-mounted gull wing to give the pilot an excellent view?
Like PZL P.11/P.24? With a fixed chassis as in the original.

Or a quick jump to Bristol F.18/37?

Why not - should look good, too. But, IMHO, the single wing would again have to be bigger. Some time ago I used the upper wing from a Curtiss SBC, and this alone was not enough, at least for my taste. An interesting idea, nevertheless!

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Re: Gloster Gladiator whiffs
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2018, 10:19:47 am »
Are you interested also in Twin-Gladiators?
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Re: Gloster Gladiator whiffs
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2018, 09:50:02 am »
And from front:
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Re: Gloster Gladiator whiffs
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2018, 12:18:41 am »
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Re: Gloster Gladiator whiffs
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2018, 05:50:38 am »
That works well  :thumbsup:
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Re: Gloster Gladiator whiffs
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2018, 10:38:24 pm »
I've got a Life-Like Gladiator in the stash, and have a few possibilities in mind. It may get done as a something I've long had a name for, but no firm plans on what to use for it: The Gloster Guttersnipe. A heavily gunned version to help repel Operation Sealion? As the name requires something dirty and brutish it might be the way to go.
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