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Re: B-58 Hustler
« Reply #90 on: December 02, 2011, 10:10:30 am »
Apparently "Alphasim" (never heard of it before) - http://67.189.28.191/b-58/fltsim_alphasim.cfm

The image is from the provider's "repaint" page for Alphasim - http://67.189.28.191/b-58/fltsim_repaints.cfm

Indeed, as I posted right after asking the question.  ;D

Sadly Alphasim are no more and have morphed into Virtavia nowadays, nowhere near as inovative or as costomer friendly as Alpha were before. I have their B-58 somewhere but it looks like that repaint is unobtainable at present. The B-58 isn't on Virtavia's lists just now and neither is it on the Alpha freeware list either.
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Re: B-58 Hustler
« Reply #91 on: June 18, 2018, 11:27:31 am »
Footage of the B-58's tailgun articulation just past 19 minutes in this video.  iI's really odd, I assumed it would be gimballed at the breech end but instead it slews and slides around with armadillo-style annular plates.  Perhaps for feed reasons, or extra reach?

https://youtu.be/rRpHoc0V0co?t=980

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Re: B-58 Hustler
« Reply #92 on: June 18, 2018, 01:53:33 pm »
That is VERY weird!  :o
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Re: B-58 Hustler
« Reply #93 on: June 18, 2018, 08:23:55 pm »
I think you've misunderstood how guns are mounted.  They invariably use a saddle shaped mount, which is attached either side of the breech.  Behind the breech would be various mechanisms required to run the gun so a traditional gimbal wouldn't work.  The plates are there simply to streamline the mount.
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Re: B-58 Hustler
« Reply #94 on: June 19, 2018, 05:48:17 am »
I still find it odd that a supersonic bomber had a tail gun.
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Re: B-58 Hustler
« Reply #95 on: June 19, 2018, 06:19:36 am »
I think you've misunderstood how guns are mounted.  They invariably use a saddle shaped mount, which is attached either side of the breech.  Behind the breech would be various mechanisms required to run the gun so a traditional gimbal wouldn't work.  The plates are there simply to streamline the mount.

'Breech end', not literally breech! :)  The saddle mount you describe is exactly a gimbal.

The B-52's M61 mounting moved more 'normally', with azimuth and elevation along semicircular arcs like a traditional defensive MG:

https://youtu.be/d-Tn5JwMEtA?t=28

However the B-58's mounting seems to use some strange camming to obtain extra angles.  I'll check to see if there's a diagram in the Aerofax book.
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Re: B-58 Hustler
« Reply #96 on: June 19, 2018, 09:23:44 am »
The "strangeness" is an optical illusion. The gimball is simply mounted way behind (towards the plane's nose, that is) the last "armadillo shell". When the gun rotates around its gimball, at smaller angles only the outer "shells" move noticeably, but at extreme angles all of them have to move and the outer ones rather radically, causing the tunnel formed by the shells to bend (while maintaining a straight opening for the gun) and causing the illusion of the gun moving sideways.