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Re: Seen Over Your House Today
« Reply #5160 on: July 13, 2018, 02:55:47 am »
... he drove in from Stansted Airport in a yuge, bigly convoy. Many cars, big cars. And trucks.
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Mind you they will have to be replaced post visit. Yet more cost for your tax payers  :banghead:
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Re: Seen Over Your House Today
« Reply #5161 on: July 13, 2018, 03:31:03 am »
From memory the Ospreys are for security, White House staff and press, they aren't deemed suitable for regular Presidential use due to cramped interiors and noise issues.
Then there is the reliability / crash problem. They weren't considered safe enough in 2013 https://gizmodo.com/the-president-gets-a-personal-osprey-hes-not-allowed-t-1108783801

The Ospreys do look good in that glossy dark green scheme!  :wub:
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Re: Seen Over Your House Today
« Reply #5162 on: July 13, 2018, 04:02:24 am »
So in that article it appears Mr.Trump was travelling in a Sikorsky VH-3D, (Sea King derivative) but over here he appeared to be in a Sikorsky VH-60N (Black Hawk derivative) I presume it's because the later is air transportable?
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Re: Seen Over Your House Today
« Reply #5163 on: July 13, 2018, 06:06:53 am »
My no. 1 daughter, who works at Blenheim Palace normally (but not this week, they were all given 4 days off) says they had a practice 'fly by' at Blenheim on Tuesday, with an H-60 and two V-22s in formation with a C-5!

The latter peeled off westward, while the choppers landed there, and as there was a USAF C-5 on the ground at Brize Norton today as I passed by I presume that carried in the monster limo.
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Re: Seen Over Your House Today
« Reply #5164 on: July 13, 2018, 06:19:10 am »
My no. 1 daughter, who works at Blenheim Palace normally (but not this week, they were all given 4 days off) says they had a practice 'fly by' at Blenheim on Tuesday, with an H-60 and two V-22s in formation with a C-5!

The latter peeled off westward, while the choppers landed there, and as there was a USAF C-5 on the ground at Brize Norton today as I passed by I presume that carried in the monster limo.

Why has the thought just occurred to me that (with it's weight) if you dropped the limo with Trump in it out of the back of the C-5 you'd have an extremely large 'dumb' bomb?  :o
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Re: Seen Over Your House Today
« Reply #5165 on: July 13, 2018, 07:09:01 am »
So in that article it appears Mr.Trump was travelling in a Sikorsky VH-3D, (Sea King derivative) but over here he appeared to be in a Sikorsky VH-60N (Black Hawk derivative) I presume it's because the later is air transportable?

That is pretty much what it says on Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMX-1
Because the VH-60N folds easily for loading into an Air Force C-5 Galaxy or a C-17 Globemaster it is ideal for overseas assignments. The Marines can prepare a VH-60N for a C-5 load in less than two hours.

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Re: Seen Over Your House Today
« Reply #5166 on: July 13, 2018, 07:23:20 am »
So in that article it appears Mr.Trump was travelling in a Sikorsky VH-3D, (Sea King derivative) but over here he appeared to be in a Sikorsky VH-60N (Black Hawk derivative) I presume it's because the later is air transportable?

That is pretty much what it says on Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMX-1
Because the VH-60N folds easily for loading into an Air Force C-5 Galaxy or a C-17 Globemaster it is ideal for overseas assignments. The Marines can prepare a VH-60N for a C-5 load in less than two hours.

That'll teach me to do my research properly - I actually went to that article to check that HMX-1 actually operated both types!  ;D
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Re: Seen Over Your House Today
« Reply #5167 on: July 13, 2018, 10:29:41 am »
I don't know why, but the RAF were out to play above Leominster at 2 this afternoon.  Half a dozen Typhoons indulging in low-ish, noisy, formation flying including a six man V formation and a couple of three man V's.
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Re: Seen Over Your House Today
« Reply #5168 on: July 13, 2018, 11:03:51 am »

I don't know why, but the RAF were out to play above Leominster at 2 this afternoon.  Half a dozen Typhoons indulging in low-ish, noisy, formation flying including a six man V formation and a couple of three man V's.


There was a cut-down version of the RAF 100 flypast at Fairford today, only 50 aircraft according to 'she who knows', and our part of the country was part of the forming-up area.

Naturally I'm in Leicestershire this weekend.....  :banghead:
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Re: Seen Over Your House Today
« Reply #5169 on: July 13, 2018, 04:30:58 pm »
Yesterday a BAE CT-155 took off from 35R at YYC, those Hawk's make a lot of noise for something so small.

Today, I saw my first real CC-177. It landed on 17R right in front of me where I was parked by the guard house. They're painted a lighter grey than the RAF ones.  A while later a CF-188B landed on the same runway.
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Re: Seen Over Your House Today
« Reply #5170 on: July 13, 2018, 05:52:04 pm »
At Wrigley Field in Chicago at the Jimmy Buffet concert watching airliners on approach to O’Hare IAP. Plus a few other cuties.
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Re: Seen Over Your House Today
« Reply #5171 on: July 13, 2018, 09:47:12 pm »
My no. 1 daughter, who works at Blenheim Palace normally (but not this week, they were all given 4 days off) says they had a practice 'fly by' at Blenheim on Tuesday, with an H-60 and two V-22s in formation with a C-5!

The latter peeled off westward, while the choppers landed there, and as there was a USAF C-5 on the ground at Brize Norton today as I passed by I presume that carried in the monster limo.

Way back in '91, Bush senior visited Canberra.  He brought two C-5s.  One was carrying "the beast", the other his backup vehicles.  He did not endear himself to Australia with his use of the rather inappropriate Churchillian "V-victory" salute without understand what it meant downunder.   Barbara Bush stopped my taxi as I was coming in from the airport with her motorcade.  I was not impressed.  Appeared to me to a whole lot of bullshit for someone who wasn't our President.  ;)
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Re: Seen Over Your House Today
« Reply #5172 on: July 14, 2018, 02:25:16 am »


The Ospreys do look good in that glossy dark green scheme!  :wub:


They do indeed  :thumbsup:

  He did not endear himself to Australia with his use of the rather inappropriate Churchillian "V-victory" salute without understand what it meant downunder.   

That way around it means the same in the UK Brian. Churchill seems to have to have used it both ways and I've never really worked out if with him being from the "ruling class" he actually knew what it meant when reversed ? Mind you as an insult it's fallen out of use to a large extent among the younger generation and been replaced by other hand/finger symbols/signs. Changed in the same way that swear words are either in vogue or not.

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Re: Seen Over Your House Today
« Reply #5173 on: July 14, 2018, 05:37:47 am »


The Ospreys do look good in that glossy dark green scheme!  :wub:


They do indeed  :thumbsup:

  He did not endear himself to Australia with his use of the rather inappropriate Churchillian "V-victory" salute without understand what it meant downunder.   

That way around it means the same in the UK Brian. Churchill seems to have to have used it both ways and I've never really worked out if with him being from the "ruling class" he actually knew what it meant when reversed ? Mind you as an insult it's fallen out of use to a large extent among the younger generation and been replaced by other hand/finger symbols/signs. Changed in the same way that swear words are either in vogue or not.

Considering that particular hand gesture originally came about from something not related to being rude, more of a 'see what I have' gesture, I don't see what the fuss is about.
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Re: Seen Over Your House Today
« Reply #5174 on: July 14, 2018, 10:48:51 pm »


The Ospreys do look good in that glossy dark green scheme!  :wub:


They do indeed  :thumbsup:

  He did not endear himself to Australia with his use of the rather inappropriate Churchillian "V-victory" salute without understand what it meant downunder.   

That way around it means the same in the UK Brian. Churchill seems to have to have used it both ways and I've never really worked out if with him being from the "ruling class" he actually knew what it meant when reversed ? Mind you as an insult it's fallen out of use to a large extent among the younger generation and been replaced by other hand/finger symbols/signs. Changed in the same way that swear words are either in vogue or not.

I suspect Churchill knew very well the meaning of the symbolic gesture he was using, Chris.  He was too knowledgeable not to have known (or been appraised of it).   I suspect he appropriated it for his own use and everybody knew the real meaning of raising two fingers to Herr Hitler and his regime.  ;)
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