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Offline Archibald

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Kitbashing VG and fixed wing models...
« on: October 24, 2006, 11:48:51 pm »
After our productive comrade started to kitbash a F-111 and a F-15, I'm asking about the bashing of VG aircrafts with fixed wing ones.
what are the possible combos ?
The VG types are
- MiG-23, F-111, Tornado, Tomcat, Su-24
fixed wings types
- TSR-2, Phantom, F-15, F-22, F-18 Superbug , Su-27, Su-47,MiG 1.44, MiG-25,
Su-15...

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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2006, 11:49:30 pm »
I'm wanting to do a swing-wing flanker myself.
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2006, 11:53:03 pm »
where does the VG system come from ? Tomcat or F-111 ?

My personal dream is kitbashing a MiG-23 and a... Falcon 20 (mach2 has made one) , to obtain the Tintin Carreidas bizjet (Nils, JC Carbonel here ?)  
King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2006, 11:56:19 pm »
I did a "virtual kitbash" of a Tomcat and Flanker. The end result looks quite appealing IMHO.
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2006, 11:57:57 pm »
cool!!  
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King Arthur: What are you then?
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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2006, 06:37:28 am »
I forget who, but there have been a couple of F-4 VG's posted to the site in the last year (one was for a GB).  And I've seen a VG TSR.2 as well.  Again, I forgot who did it, but I'm fairly certain it may have been The Wooksta.  

All of them looked very sharp!

That Su-27/F-14 kitbash looks nice, Canis!

Don't forget the Su-17/20/22 for VG wings, as well as the X-5.

The plan for my Mig-31K (which has been in the planning stages since I first model-blitzed this site) is for VG wings ala the Su-22 (extended wing gloves, then the outer wing is VG).  I forget, was it the Mig-25 or Mig-31 that had a preproduction study that showed it with VG wings?
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2006, 06:45:39 am »
I have something for you : there's a thread on Secret project full of early MiG-31, some of them had VG wings... I had posted a thread here with the link, some weeks ago (I have to check)

Here we are. hope you'll enjoy that and it give you plenties of ideas, productive comrade!!
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/inde...php?topic=268.0
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I think THIS could interest you for your kitbash...
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/inde...tach=2325;image
 
King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
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Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2006, 07:21:06 am »
There's always the VG Lightning of course, & a few have already bashed one:

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...hl=vg+lightning



The swing wing Lightning would have used the same wing as the standard version.   If you wanted to convert a type to VG, you wouldn't have to use the wings from another swinger.  Either use the wings from the kit itself or another non-VG type, whatever's suitable.  All you'd have to do then was construct the gloves, either from a swinger or scratchbuild them.
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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2006, 09:16:55 am »
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The VG TSR2 has been done - at least 3 times by me, Thorvic and Lazlo.  F14 wings are what you need and are pretty much spot on.
Really want to see pics of this models if possible...  
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2006, 09:20:23 am »
How about a Su-15 with Su-22 wings?
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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2006, 11:45:30 am »
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I have something for you : there's a thread on Secret project full of early MiG-31, some of them had VG wings... I had posted a thread here with the link, some weeks ago (I have to check)

Here we are. hope you'll enjoy that and it give you plenties of ideas, productive comrade!!
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/inde...php?topic=268.0
...
I think THIS could interest you for your kitbash...
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/inde...tach=2325;image
Yep, those are the concepts I've got.  Couldn't remember if there was a thread over at Secret Projects specifically for the Mig-31 concepts or if they were dumped into one of the various Soviet aircraft threads.

And my Mig-31 VG will look a bit different than those.

With Lee, Thor and Lazlo all doing TSR.2 VG's, that makes the pics of the models on my hard drive make sense.  I couldn't figure out if these pics were of the same model or different ones  :dum:   I think pics of them are in the TSR.2 section of the Hot Research topics section.

Heh...  Evan, as soon as I sent the post with the Su-17/20/22 mention in it, the exact same thought of "Su-15 with Su-22 wings on it" popped into my head!   :lol:   Maybe when I can find another Su-15 kit...
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2006, 06:31:01 pm »
Fixed wing F-14 wouldn't be too far out there, as Grumman's model 303E (or was it G?) showed the F-14 fuseloge w/F-15 wings. I've been trying to work up the nerve to do that one (in 1/144, as I have LOTS of parts from these 2 birds in that scale), but so far have yet to do so.


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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2006, 09:20:16 pm »
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2006, 01:27:51 am »
:wub: F-14L? Sexy

Though I would add canards to the carrier-based version.
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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2006, 01:37:29 am »
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I have something for you : there's a thread on Secret project full of early MiG-31, some of them had VG wings... I had posted a thread here with the link, some weeks ago (I have to check)

Here we are. hope you'll enjoy that and it give you plenties of ideas, productive comrade!!
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/inde...php?topic=268.0
...
I think THIS could interest you for your kitbash...
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/inde...tach=2325;image
I remember reading something from the early '80s that speculated(based on satellite images of ramenskoye) that the RAM-K/Su-27 was a swing-wing version of the "Super Foxbat"



Thats an interesting but understandable way of interpreting things, no?
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